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John Nash says Mental Illness is Adaptive. Is he right?

July 7th, 2007 · 5 Comments

John Nash is a brilliant mathematician. He is the Winner of the Nobel Prize in 1994 for his pioneering work on Game Theory. As now everybody knows- he suffers with Schizophrenia- as documented film- A Beautiful Mind. While he mathematical genius is unparalleled- he is no evolutionary biologist- as is evident from his comments during a speech at the APA’s 2007 meetings…

His idea: that mental illness may be adaptive in humans… While I disagree with this statement as is- he does have an interesting- even plausible idea. Please read on..

“When there are large populations and behavior of a complex structure, it observably turns out that the individuals of a species can have quite varied forms of behavior and that they may serve the interests of a nest or family or tribe in quite varied fashions,” Nash told psychiatrists. “In some varieties of ants there are specialized members of a nest that are ‘warrior ants,’ and these are quite specialized in their function. And with the bees, only the queen and the haploid drones function directly in the genetics of reproduction, and most of the hive are ‘worker bees.’

Now here Nash is correct I treating mental illness as variation- in some weird way, how we perceive the world around us much be under natural selection- and yes- variability does exist *Just ask my wife* About the specialization and caste structure in eusocial hymenoptera- I’m a little less clear about his point… Is he trying to say that those with mental illness serve some special societal role? What might this role be? I’ll stop here in an effort NOT to offend people..

“It is conceivable that the susceptibility of humans to depression or to bipolar disorder may correlate positively specifically with the composition of poetry,” Nash said. He noted that the American poet Robert Lowell was hospitalized at McLean Hospital near Boston at the same time that Nash was admitted for schizophrenia.

It would be interesting to do an analysis to determine the relationship between mental illness and creativity. Does creativity increase with severity of mental illness- this is obviously not a linear relationship (those suffering from severe mental illness are probably too ill to function in ANY capacity…), but is does seem likely that there is some positive relationship- at least in minor to moderate mental illness. The major challenge with undertaking this type of study would be to detect causality- which is of course what Nash is arguing for..

“One thing about diversity in natural species that is well understood by evolutionary biologists is that the natural phenomenon of mutations serves to prepare a species for adaptation to changing conditions or for improved adaptation to an existing level of environmental circumstances,” Nash said. “This is a topic that has been studied in game theory…. If species are considered as players in a game that continually repeats, and if the species are provided with the possibility of change through mutation of their playing behavior,… then the effect is that the players or species can be shown to naturally evolve so as to get better payoffs from the game

Ummm John, I think you are mistaken here, on 2 different levels. 1st, and most basic is the confusion with levels of selection.. While there is much debate between those the individual levels vs. the gene level- species level selection has been soundly rejected in the literature since Williams laid it to rest over 30 years ago (But see D.S. Wilson and a few others for discussion of “multilevel selection”). 2nd the idea that mutation prepares individuals for environmental change has been discredited multiple times. While it is true that more variable species are more likely to possess the specific capacity to adapt, this is a probabilistic argument- nothing else. It is of course possible that species X with 2 “forms” outcompetes species Y with 20 “forms” given a specific environment. You would have predicted the opposite outcome knowing only of the “amount of diversity” each species had.

“So a possible, but perhaps questionable, inference is that humans are notably subject to mental illness because there was a need for diversity in the patterns of human mental functions,” Nash said.

This is a neat idea- after all what differentiates us from out closest relatives is our ability to have abstract thought processes. While this has successfully aides out transformation into what we are today- it is quite likely that it has come at a price-an increased susceptibility for mental illness.. BUT THAT IS NOT ADAPTATION!!! It’s pleiotropy…

Aside from the Nash’s missteps, one must ask the question… IS mental illness adaptive? If not (and if it is selected against, as I suspect it is), WHY does it continue to be so prevalent? So the 1st question is not as easily answered as I would hope- Does mental illness enhance reproductive success relative to “normal people”? Now severe mental illness seems surely selectively negative- but that about mild and moderate mental illness (by the way- the most common)? It’s not so clear… It might be negative, neutral, or positive. Who knows? Are there data that speak to this question? I imagine that any study that tried to answer this question would be severely confounded by the fact that a very large proportion of depressive disorders are treated with medication and/or psychotherapy.

Not much to say for the contrary view- what if mental illness is selectively negative- why is there so much of it??? Certainly Nash’s pleiotropy is at the top of the list here…

Does anybody know more about this? Are there studies that look at selection and mental illness? I’m fascinated….

Tags: biology · evolution

5 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Yann Klimentidis // Jul 9, 2007 at 8:23 am

    There was a paper that came out a few months ago that discussed this idea. here’s the link from my blog:
    http://yannklimentidis.blogspot.com/2007/04/highly-speculative-but-interesting.html
    They do some sort of simulation to find that unpredictable or risky behavior may end up being beneficial to the group and therefore to each individual and the afflicted individual.
    Matt, are you making a distinction between group selection and multilevel selection? What is the distinction?
    I enjoy reading your blog, by the way

  • 2 Yann Klimentidis // Jul 9, 2007 at 8:26 am

    sorry, that link didn’t completely show up. here’s the rest of it:
    eculative-but-interesting.html

  • 3 Anonymous // Jul 10, 2007 at 1:31 pm

    I think you’re being too hard on Nash. I think he’s just throwing the idea out there that there is variation and that this variation may be helpful at some point.

    I don’t want to get into a Spandrels-type argument, but even if mental illness is a product of pleiotropy, it can still be selected and therefore, in some narrow sense be adaptive.

    Of course you need a lot of data and work to prove that it’s adaptive, but that’s not Nash’s job. I mean, he already gave us game theory…

    What is slightly more worrisome, on a sociological (or moral) level, is that people with “defects” try to validate themselves by proving/suggesting that it is adaptive. Now Nash might be just seeking an explanation, but I sure got the sense that Roughgarden was trying to validate herself with this approach.

    If it isn’t adaptive, should we change our position on disabilities and sexual orientation/gender? Race?

  • 4 Anonymous // Jul 12, 2007 at 12:51 pm

    yes it is a respectable idea.
    I don’t think he meant that severe mental illness is adaptive per se but that it may come along with other beneficial traits.
    see this link http://www.narsad.org/research/summaries/andreasennancy-2007di.html
    I am currently investigating something similar, albeit as a student.

  • 5 David Harmon // Jul 25, 2007 at 7:01 am

    IS mental illness adaptive?

    What makes you think the question is settled? Our transition to Homo sapiens is still pretty recent in evolutionary time, especially for a creature as slow-breeding as we are. The development of language et al. seems more recent still. I’d say we’re still “shaking out bugs” from the drastic increase in both brain complexity, and (consequently) social/mental diversity. But we can already see that some of those variations are quite useful, even if they aren’t “normal”.

    Looking first at the extremes, we get a lot of “cripples” such as overt schizophrenics (or severe mental retardation), but we also get a few hyper-productive types (hypomania comes to mind). Some of the possibilities have implications for the social group as a whole, such as when you get an obsessive uber-dominant (conqueror), or a charismatic type. There’s the whole artistic thing too, for what that’s worth.

    And then there’s “learning disorders”. Those aren’t usually considered “mental illness”, but they have similar evolutionary characteristics, and derive from the same neural diversity. Lately the Autistic Spectrum has been getting a lot of press… Consider that much of our Information Age derives from the slightly askew perspective and peculiar talents of “mild” autistic types like Alan Turing and Bill Gates!

    Adaptive enough for you? Check back in a few thousand years….

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